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	<title>Comments on: Ryan Adams :: Riverside Theater, Milwaukee</title>
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		<title>By: Kristy</title>
		<link>http://www.muzzleofbees.com/2007/09/28/ryan-adams-riverside-theater-milwaukee/comment-page-1/#comment-55199</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some friends and I attended the Ryan Adam&#039;s and the cardinals concert last night. We were shocked and insulted by the way he treated his fans. Using profanity and chastising your fans when they are doing nothing but show support for your music is very out of line, in my opinion. I will never go to one of his shows again and am no longer a supporter of his music. He should be grateful to his fans for without them he would not be where he is today. 
Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some friends and I attended the Ryan Adam&#8217;s and the cardinals concert last night. We were shocked and insulted by the way he treated his fans. Using profanity and chastising your fans when they are doing nothing but show support for your music is very out of line, in my opinion. I will never go to one of his shows again and am no longer a supporter of his music. He should be grateful to his fans for without them he would not be where he is today.<br />
Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the Uptown Theater KC Oct 2, RA handled the Set Listers by telling them Neil HATES requests, so every song that gets yelled out, they wont play, and, Neil will punch them in the throat.   Not getting it, somebody yelled out another song, to which he said &quot;now you&#039;ll have to come back next year for that one&quot;.   I think he handled it all real well.   If people want to hear their favorite songs, that is what records are for.   They played over two hours.    Dear John was stunning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the Uptown Theater KC Oct 2, RA handled the Set Listers by telling them Neil HATES requests, so every song that gets yelled out, they wont play, and, Neil will punch them in the throat.   Not getting it, somebody yelled out another song, to which he said &#8220;now you&#8217;ll have to come back next year for that one&#8221;.   I think he handled it all real well.   If people want to hear their favorite songs, that is what records are for.   They played over two hours.    Dear John was stunning.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s several factors at play here.
I was at the Riverside show and when I walked out, I was pissed at some of the fans behavior, which I felt caused the show to end sooner than it should have. After more reflection, I realized in reality I&#039;ve been to plenty of shows with far more obnoxious fans yet the performers still delivered the goods.
I also think the theater type venue provides almost too much intimacy. We kid ourselves into thinking we&#039;re at a play or other dramatic bill when if fact we are at a rock show. People are always going to cut loose and have a little too much fun. It&#039;s the nature of the business. For example, take the staid crowd at the Wilco show at the Overture. At time it was so sterile it was eerie. Bet you the price of a ticket that Wilco at the Eagles ballroom next week will not have the same feel. (not that I&#039;ll know since it&#039;s finally time to see Grizzly Bear)
The problem with Ryan is that he doesn&#039;t handle his rock star spotlight very well. He never has and always appeared a bit unstable. His past tours are full of tantrums and meltdowns and all for different reasons. One night, it&#039;s the &quot;uncooperative&quot; crowd, the next night it&#039;s stage monitors. 
I saw him at Red Rocks this summer and he was an absolutely joy. He constantly engaged the crowd, cracked self-deprecating jokes and in general put on a outstanding show. Trust me there was plenty of yelping and shouted requests. And before a show in Berkely earlier this summer, Ryan was out in the lobby hitting up fans for setlist ideas. 
Don&#039;t get me wrong, I love Ryan and I can&#039;t wait to see him play again, but I&#039;ll do it knowing that it will be hit or miss as to whether he delivers a good show. But when it&#039;s good, it&#039;s wow! For god sakes, he played Brown Sugar as a piano solo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s several factors at play here.<br />
I was at the Riverside show and when I walked out, I was pissed at some of the fans behavior, which I felt caused the show to end sooner than it should have. After more reflection, I realized in reality I&#8217;ve been to plenty of shows with far more obnoxious fans yet the performers still delivered the goods.<br />
I also think the theater type venue provides almost too much intimacy. We kid ourselves into thinking we&#8217;re at a play or other dramatic bill when if fact we are at a rock show. People are always going to cut loose and have a little too much fun. It&#8217;s the nature of the business. For example, take the staid crowd at the Wilco show at the Overture. At time it was so sterile it was eerie. Bet you the price of a ticket that Wilco at the Eagles ballroom next week will not have the same feel. (not that I&#8217;ll know since it&#8217;s finally time to see Grizzly Bear)<br />
The problem with Ryan is that he doesn&#8217;t handle his rock star spotlight very well. He never has and always appeared a bit unstable. His past tours are full of tantrums and meltdowns and all for different reasons. One night, it&#8217;s the &#8220;uncooperative&#8221; crowd, the next night it&#8217;s stage monitors.<br />
I saw him at Red Rocks this summer and he was an absolutely joy. He constantly engaged the crowd, cracked self-deprecating jokes and in general put on a outstanding show. Trust me there was plenty of yelping and shouted requests. And before a show in Berkely earlier this summer, Ryan was out in the lobby hitting up fans for setlist ideas.<br />
Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love Ryan and I can&#8217;t wait to see him play again, but I&#8217;ll do it knowing that it will be hit or miss as to whether he delivers a good show. But when it&#8217;s good, it&#8217;s wow! For god sakes, he played Brown Sugar as a piano solo!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were PLENTY of drunken frat boys and sorority girls in attendance, but the fact is they amounted to maybe 20 (vocal) people out of the 2,000 plus in the crowd. I heard many telling these idiots to shut up, but they didn&#039;t. So the rest of us are left to accept a crappy show because of a few? The few have the ability to  ruin it for the masses. THAT is why the fans got screwed. Jeff Tweedy has learned how to isolate the knobs in the crowd and make them feel like shit, but Ryan Adams has yet to learn that trick, he just laid on the ground pouting.  So how do you tell the dumb-ass show wreckers to stay home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were PLENTY of drunken frat boys and sorority girls in attendance, but the fact is they amounted to maybe 20 (vocal) people out of the 2,000 plus in the crowd. I heard many telling these idiots to shut up, but they didn&#8217;t. So the rest of us are left to accept a crappy show because of a few? The few have the ability to  ruin it for the masses. THAT is why the fans got screwed. Jeff Tweedy has learned how to isolate the knobs in the crowd and make them feel like shit, but Ryan Adams has yet to learn that trick, he just laid on the ground pouting.  So how do you tell the dumb-ass show wreckers to stay home?</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed with harrison ... it&#039;s your right to act like a drunken frat kid just like it&#039;s their right to then not play a stellar show because of that. but i agree w/the previous poster ... if you&#039;re going to do that, why don&#039;t you do US all a favor and stick to your nickelback and fall out boy shows? it&#039;s hard to believe you&#039;re really a fan of the ryan&#039;s and tweedy&#039;s of the world if you really just don&#039;t know better or care</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed with harrison &#8230; it&#8217;s your right to act like a drunken frat kid just like it&#8217;s their right to then not play a stellar show because of that. but i agree w/the previous poster &#8230; if you&#8217;re going to do that, why don&#8217;t you do US all a favor and stick to your nickelback and fall out boy shows? it&#8217;s hard to believe you&#8217;re really a fan of the ryan&#8217;s and tweedy&#8217;s of the world if you really just don&#8217;t know better or care</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://www.muzzleofbees.com/2007/09/28/ryan-adams-riverside-theater-milwaukee/comment-page-1/#comment-53695</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Harrison! I agree 100%</description>
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		<title>By: pure bug beauty</title>
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		<dc:creator>pure bug beauty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s likely that &quot;vito spatafore&quot; is his real life clone, who works at the bayview branch of the milwaukee public library.  the resemblance, at first glance, is uncanny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s likely that &#8220;vito spatafore&#8221; is his real life clone, who works at the bayview branch of the milwaukee public library.  the resemblance, at first glance, is uncanny.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan Adams and Jeff Tweedy have the right to a crowd that is polite. It&#039;s called concert etiquette. If you go to a play you don&#039;t shout out lines and other plays of Shakespeare&#039;s that you want to see performed. You aren&#039;t supposed to shout things when people are trying to speak or play songs. I don&#039;t understand how most people don&#039;t know that bands know what they are going to play before the show begins.  Also, once they were told that the songs were already decided upon, to continue to yell things is rude. It is not only rude to the people on stage, but it is rude to everyone else in the audience who decided not to have too much to drink and were not yelling things. These people wanted to hear the show and were polite, but because of some rude, obnoxious people, the show was not what it could have been. So, perhaps instead of drinking too much before the show, thinking only of your own enjoyment, think about the other people, the majority of the audience who did not want to hear the shouts of inebriated gentlemen yelling &quot;I love you Ryan Adams,&quot; and, &quot;Take off your pants.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Adams and Jeff Tweedy have the right to a crowd that is polite. It&#8217;s called concert etiquette. If you go to a play you don&#8217;t shout out lines and other plays of Shakespeare&#8217;s that you want to see performed. You aren&#8217;t supposed to shout things when people are trying to speak or play songs. I don&#8217;t understand how most people don&#8217;t know that bands know what they are going to play before the show begins.  Also, once they were told that the songs were already decided upon, to continue to yell things is rude. It is not only rude to the people on stage, but it is rude to everyone else in the audience who decided not to have too much to drink and were not yelling things. These people wanted to hear the show and were polite, but because of some rude, obnoxious people, the show was not what it could have been. So, perhaps instead of drinking too much before the show, thinking only of your own enjoyment, think about the other people, the majority of the audience who did not want to hear the shouts of inebriated gentlemen yelling &#8220;I love you Ryan Adams,&#8221; and, &#8220;Take off your pants.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: grove stine</title>
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		<dc:creator>grove stine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CELTIC FROST!</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.muzzleofbees.com/2007/09/28/ryan-adams-riverside-theater-milwaukee/comment-page-1/#comment-53384</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Ryan Adams?!
http://dailyblabber.ivillage.com/entertainment/archives/2007/09/celebrity_meltdown_ryan_adams.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Ryan Adams?!<br />
<a href="http://dailyblabber.ivillage.com/entertainment/archives/2007/09/celebrity_meltdown_ryan_adams.html" rel="nofollow">http://dailyblabber.ivillage.com/entertainment/archives/2007/09/celebrity_meltdown_ryan_adams.html</a></p>
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